uclibc at uclibc.org == /dev/null ??

Rob Landley rob at landley.net
Mon Aug 28 00:39:33 UTC 2006


On Monday 21 August 2006 7:04 am, paul wang wrote:
> what's  with the culture in the group?

The problem isn't with the group.  PEBKAC.  (Google for it.)

> no one is helping less experienced one?

You mean why aren't we providing free tech support for things that are totally 
unrelated to us, rather than focusing on the development of the project that 
the list is named after?  Why don't we drop what we're doing and spend hours 
trying to track down a problem we don't actually have enough information to 
reproduce, and do this for someone we don't know?

The BusyBox list gets these same questions.  So does linux-kernel.  You'd 
think the answers would be obvious, but no.

You're the kind of person who goes up to habitat for humanity to ask them to 
fix your roof, and complains when they don't stop what they're doing and go 
to your house, for free.  After all, they make other houses for free, don't 
they?

> I've just found my problem with lsof, is to do with I'm building and testing
> in a chrooted environment and nothing do to with uClibc. 

There you go then.  In your own words, "nothing to do with uClibc".

> I'm sure someone must have similar trouble before but no one speaks up. this
> will not help uclibc get more testing and users. 

You seem to be under the assumption that there are a finite number of ways to 
break a system, that every one has distinct non-overlapping symptoms that 
make the source of the problem immediately apparent, and that each of us here 
has encountered all of them before.

This is not the case.

> I could probably gone on a strace spreed with my problem with login, and
> probably finds a bug somewhere... or not, since this group is just
> like /dev/null...  

When you approach it like that?  Sure.

You got the software for free, no strings attached, and that wasn't enough.  
Where did you get the impression that we owe you more than that?  We didn't 
OWE you that much, it was a GIFT.

There are plenty of paid services who will be at your beck and call.  Heck, 
they'll put together a working system for you if you want, even a custom 
embedded job for a strange hardware platform.  Would you like us to refer you 
to some?

The quickest way to turn off volunteers is to "look a gift horse in the 
mouth".  I suspect you're now in most of the spam filters for this list.

Rob
-- 
Never bet against the cheap plastic solution.



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