coordinated compliance efforts addresses the issues of this thread
Felipe Contreras
felipe.contreras at gmail.com
Fri Oct 19 06:05:23 UTC 2012
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Rich Felker <dalias at aerifal.cx> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 01:19:02PM +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Rich Felker <dalias at aerifal.cx> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 03:26:06PM +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>> >> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Bradley M. Kuhn <bkuhn at ebb.org> wrote:
>> >> > Felipe Contreras wrote at 00:52 (EDT):
>> >> >> I'm talking about rights. As a user, I don't have any rights, only
>> >> >> privileges granted by the developer.
>> >> >
>> >> > This is where I disagree, in principle. While you're technically
>> >> > correct that the "rights" of copyright law stay with the copyright
>> >> > holder, the GPL is clearly designed to pass rights and privileges
>> >> > along to each who receives distribution.
>> >>
>> >> It doesn't matter how the GPL was designed, the GPL doesn't have
>> >> precedence over the law, and the law doesn't allow a software license
>> >> to change the nature of copyright law.
>> >
>> > The law does not define rights in any philosophical sense. For those
>> > who believe in rights, they are something that exist prior to the law,
>> > or evolving independently of law, and which law ideally serves to
>> > protect but often instead infringes.
>>
>> True rights are protected by law, if the law doesn't protect them,
>> then they are not rights. You can't impose your views of what
>> constitutes a right to other people, that's the whole reason we have a
>> common law in the first place.
>
> We'll simply have to agree to disagree then. What you mean by "rights"
> is a lot different from what many other people, including myself, mean
> when using the term.
A right is not something a person (e.g. a developer) can make it go
away on a whim, and that is the case for what the GPL gives to users.
--
Felipe Contreras
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