Can mdev replace udev in an ordinary linux distro?

walter harms wharms at bfs.de
Thu Sep 15 11:19:02 UTC 2011


at least it would be a nice try.
Most desktop systems are simple in this regard and it guess it would work.

re,
 wh


Am 15.09.2011 05:55, schrieb Walter Dnes:
>   Question... can mdev replace udev in an ordinary linux distro?  Here's
> the background...
> 
>   * The main developer for udev is an employee of Redhat
>   * He wants udev to be able to run arbitrary binaries/libraries,
>     (including those in /usr) very early in the boot process
>   * A very small percentage of users actually need this
>   * The developer's idea would *FORCE* 100% of all linux users into
>     either making /usr a true subdirectory on the same physical partion
>     as / or else booting with initramfs.
>   * Merging /usr into / goes against years of best-practices
>   * initramfs can be very difficult to debug if you make a mistake
> 
>   The udev developer sees nothing wrong with his approach, because
> that's the way things are done at Redhat.  This arrogance is on par with
> the OpenOffice developers who at one point made Java a dependancy for
> OpenOffice... did I mention that Sun/Oracle owns Java and controlled
> OpenOffice?
> 
>   I'm not here to trash Fedora.  I support their right to be inferior.
> But when a Redhat employee uses his position as a udev developer to
> force Redhat's ideas down the throats of all other linux distros this
> gets many people angry.  It has set off a firestorm on the Gentoo User
> mailing list.
> 
>   Gentoo has /bin/busybox as part of the default system.  There is also
> an option to build busybox with libraries statically linked.  IANAPP
> (I Am Not A Professional Programmer), but I can do quite a bit of bash
> scripting etc.  In Gentoo, the user generally knows what peripherals he
> has permanently connected to the machine.  Plus you'll get the usual USB
> keys and external drives being hooked up occasionally.
> 
>   If mdev can replace udev a lot of Gentoo users would be very happy.
> You might even have to start a separate "mdev-users" list <G>.
> 


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