hi folks tar -O should output any data to stdout. i just find, that -O overwrites the settings for -x. tar -xOf works, but tar -O -xf doesn't. bastian ps: glenn, erik: i'm on vacation. if you are able to fix that problem within the next week, please send the patch to pere at debian.org. -- Killing is stupid; useless! -- McCoy, "A Private Little War", stardate 4211.8